The Best of Think Inclusive Volume 2

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Happy Holidays!

To finish off 2021, we are featuring four interviews. One that you haven’t heard yet, Lou Brown, and three that you might have caught in our feed if you’ve been listening for a while: Katie Novak, Alfie Kohn, Cheryl Jorgensen.

The first is a previously unpublished clip from my 2019 interview with the co-founder of TASH, the late Lou Brown. I always meant to revisit this interview and I’m so glad I did for this episode. 

Next up is my interview with universal design for learning expert, Katie Novak. We talk about how ineffective traditional assessments are because they are not universally designed, even though the most recent education law says they should be. 

My interview with Alfie Kohn, author of the book punished by rewards, was our most listened to episode of 2021. And the clip you are about to hear is probably one of the reasons why. Alfie, I mean, Mr. Kohn, lays out his argument for why educators should steer clear from using any extrinsic reward system in their classroom.

And finally, I wanted to share my interview with Cheryl Jorgensen, author of many books on the topic of inclusive education. This clip is from 2014 and it is important to me because it shows my growth in an area that I’m rather ashamed it took me so long to realize: the parallel between the civil rights and disability rights movement and how they are inseparable.

Thanks for your time and attention! See you in 2022!

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