Think Inclusive

Conversations about inclusive education and what inclusion looks like in the real world.

Marilyn Friend | Co-Teaching

Today on the podcast, we talk with Marilyn Friend, expert and author of numerous books and articles on co-teaching. We discuss what co-teaching is and what does it look like? Do schools have to provide a co-teaching service model? And how does co-teaching further the practice of inclusive education?This episode’s transcript can be found here. Download our […]

Sarah Wishart | Excluded: A Young People-Led Film On School Exclusions

Today on the podcast, we talk with Sarah Wishart, filmmaker of Excluded, a documentary that features the stories and voices of students who have been excluded from school in the United Kingdom.  We discuss why she was inspired to make the film by something she saw on Twitter and why she thinks exclusion isn’t good […]

Wyatt Oroke | Having High Expectations for All Students

Today on the podcast, we talk with Maryland’s 2020 Teacher of the year, Wyatt Oroke about what it means to have an inclusive classroom. We discuss his perspective on how having high expectations for all of his scholars is essential and what his dream for the future of education is. This episode’s transcript can be […]

Melissa McCullough | What Inclusive Preschool Services Look Like

Today on the podcast, we talk with Melissa McCullough, Director of Early Childhood for the East Moline School District in Illinois. We discuss what a truly inclusive preschool program looks like and what they are doing to move past the outdated model of providing specialized services in separate places.  This episode’s transcript can be found […]

Eddie Fergus | Disproportionality in Special Education

Today on the podcast, we talk with Dr. Eddie Fergus of Temple University. We discuss the disproportionate number of students of color being identified in special education and what we can do about it. We review how restorative practices might be used in inclusive schools and how the biggest barrier to inclusion might be who […]
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Why You Should Stop Using These 5 Ableist Phrases

According to Access Living, ableism is “the discrimination of and social prejudice against people with disabilities based on the belief that typical abilities are superior. At its heart, ableism is rooted in the assumption that disabled people require ‘fixing’ and defines people by their disability.”  While it might be easy for you to say, “I’m not […]

BONUS: Megan Gross and Nancy Brundrett | What Inclusive Education Looks Like at Poway Unified

Today on the podcast, we talk with Megan Gross and Nancy Brundrett of the Poway Unified School District in Southern California.  They tell us how their district has changed how they educate students with significant disabilities and their role in supporting Poway schools with inclusive education. Megan Gross is the author of the books The […]
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8 Ways Your School Might Be Doing Inclusion Wrong

One middle school that I consulted with wanted some suggestions on how to improve their inclusion of students with intellectual disabilities in specials (art, music, and physical education). A special education teacher walked me down to the art classroom, where the art teacher prepared for her next class. In the large art room, there were […]

Jenny Kurth | Implementing Inclusive Education with Participation Plans

Today on the podcast, we talk with Dr. Jenny Kurth, professor of special education at the University of Kansas.  We discuss preparing for and implementing participation plans for students with complex support needs to be included in general education. And why we should all carry around pocket-sized versions of IDEA. Jenny Kurth is the author […]

Alfie Kohn | Does Behaviorism Belong in the Classroom?

Today on the podcast, we have a very special SUPERSIZED conversation with Alfie Kohn, prolific speaker and author, on human behavior, education, and parenting.  We discuss whether bribes or positive reinforcement are really the same things and answer the question…should educators abandon behaviorist ideas altogether? Mr. Kohn is the author of several books, including: Punished […]
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